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		<title>By: Len</title>
		<link>http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/2008/08/30/second-day-thoughts-on-palin-pick/comment-page-1/#comment-11846</link>
		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11843&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt; : &lt;blockquote&gt;Some might say that Bentsen’s remark did not sit well with the voters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Equally, some might say that Dan Quayle&#039;s remarks comparing himself to John Kennedy did not sit well with the voters. Mr. Quayle brought it on himself. How do you believe Sen. Bentsen should have responded to his claim of being just like President Kennedy?

You seem to think that the voters picked Dan Quayle over Lloyd Bentsen. They didn&#039;t. They picked George Bush Sr. over Michael Dukakis.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And if attracting disgruntled Hillary voters is such a winning strategy how come Sen. Obama didn’t pick her for veep?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gee, I don&#039;t know. I&#039;m sure he had his reasons. (I can think of a couple, as I am sure you can too if you try.) Why don&#039;t you ask him? Better yet, ask John McCain why he thinks it is such a winning strategy.

Why must it fall to me to explain all of this to you, Chris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-11843">Chris</a> :<br />
<blockquote>Some might say that Bentsen’s remark did not sit well with the voters.</p></blockquote>
<p>Equally, some might say that Dan Quayle&#8217;s remarks comparing himself to John Kennedy did not sit well with the voters. Mr. Quayle brought it on himself. How do you believe Sen. Bentsen should have responded to his claim of being just like President Kennedy?</p>
<p>You seem to think that the voters picked Dan Quayle over Lloyd Bentsen. They didn&#8217;t. They picked George Bush Sr. over Michael Dukakis.</p>
<blockquote><p>And if attracting disgruntled Hillary voters is such a winning strategy how come Sen. Obama didn’t pick her for veep?</p></blockquote>
<p>Gee, I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m sure he had his reasons. (I can think of a couple, as I am sure you can too if you try.) Why don&#8217;t you ask him? Better yet, ask John McCain why he thinks it is such a winning strategy.</p>
<p>Why must it fall to me to explain all of this to you, Chris?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some might say that Bentsen&#039;s remark did not sit well with the voters.  Everyone has had an encounter with a &quot;Mr. Smug&quot; who condescendingly tried to make them look foolish.  Rare indeed is the person who enjoys that.

Comparing Gov. Palin to Sen. Clinton is likewise inapt; Sen. Clinton did not succeed in her quest for the brass ring.  Sen. Biden might do well to recall that discretion is the better part of valor.

And if attracting disgruntled Hillary voters is such a winning strategy how come Sen. Obama didn&#039;t pick her for veep?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some might say that Bentsen&#8217;s remark did not sit well with the voters.  Everyone has had an encounter with a &#8220;Mr. Smug&#8221; who condescendingly tried to make them look foolish.  Rare indeed is the person who enjoys that.</p>
<p>Comparing Gov. Palin to Sen. Clinton is likewise inapt; Sen. Clinton did not succeed in her quest for the brass ring.  Sen. Biden might do well to recall that discretion is the better part of valor.</p>
<p>And if attracting disgruntled Hillary voters is such a winning strategy how come Sen. Obama didn&#8217;t pick her for veep?</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11840&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris&lt;/a&gt; : &lt;blockquote&gt;Cute. But, riddle me this, Batman — how many terms did Lloyd Bentson serve as Vice President?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

None. I&#039;m kind of surprised you didn&#039;t know that. (Now I&#039;m Batman?)

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is Hillary Clinton’s name on November’s ballot? Hmmm..&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. But then, if you recall, Senator Bentsen&#039;s remark was in response to a remark by Dan Quayle in which he compared himself to John F. Kennedy. President Kennedy&#039;s name wasn&#039;t on the ballot, either.

Come on, Chris, you get the connection. Don&#039;t you? The inference is that Mr. McCain put Mrs. Palin on the ticket to attract disgruntled Hillary voters. I do not know if that was his entire reason (who does?), but I do believe it played a part.

Sometimes I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re being willfully ignorant or just looking to stir up trouble. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-11840">Chris</a> :<br />
<blockquote>Cute. But, riddle me this, Batman — how many terms did Lloyd Bentson serve as Vice President?</p></blockquote>
<p>None. I&#8217;m kind of surprised you didn&#8217;t know that. (Now I&#8217;m Batman?)</p>
<blockquote><p>Is Hillary Clinton’s name on November’s ballot? Hmmm..</p></blockquote>
<p>No. But then, if you recall, Senator Bentsen&#8217;s remark was in response to a remark by Dan Quayle in which he compared himself to John F. Kennedy. President Kennedy&#8217;s name wasn&#8217;t on the ballot, either.</p>
<p>Come on, Chris, you get the connection. Don&#8217;t you? The inference is that Mr. McCain put Mrs. Palin on the ticket to attract disgruntled Hillary voters. I do not know if that was his entire reason (who does?), but I do believe it played a part.</p>
<p>Sometimes I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re being willfully ignorant or just looking to stir up trouble. <img src='http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Len: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;I love this line from Gail Collins’ column:
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    Joe Biden may already be practicing his drop-dead line for the vice-presidential debate: “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine, and governor, you’re no Hillary Clinton.”
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Cute.  But, riddle me this, Batman -- how many terms did Lloyd Bentson serve as Vice President?

Is Hillary Clinton&#039;s name on November&#039;s ballot?  Hmmm..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Len: </p>
<blockquote><p>I love this line from Gail Collins’ column:</p>
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    Joe Biden may already be practicing his drop-dead line for the vice-presidential debate: “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine, and governor, you’re no Hillary Clinton.”
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<p>Cute.  But, riddle me this, Batman &#8212; how many terms did Lloyd Bentson serve as Vice President?</p>
<p>Is Hillary Clinton&#8217;s name on November&#8217;s ballot?  Hmmm..</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 01:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though I&#039;m a gay liberal Democrat, I do have many conservative Republican female friends - and all of them are more excited about the McCain ticket now.

Do I believe they would&#039;ve voted McCain anyway?  Yes.  But they are excited about the campaign now.  (I&#039;m spending a week with several of &#039;em soon - I will do my best to try to de-brainwash them!) ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though I&#8217;m a gay liberal Democrat, I do have many conservative Republican female friends &#8211; and all of them are more excited about the McCain ticket now.</p>
<p>Do I believe they would&#8217;ve voted McCain anyway?  Yes.  But they are excited about the campaign now.  (I&#8217;m spending a week with several of &#8216;em soon &#8211; I will do my best to try to de-brainwash them!) <img src='http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11818&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Steve&lt;/a&gt; : Sen. Obama said he was not ready to be President? I must have missed that.

I have hired (and fired) a lot of people in my lifetime. One thing I have learned is that sometimes there are things more important than experience. That aside, I believe Barack Obama has had the life experience that will make him an outstanding president. I have spent a lot of time examining each of the candidates. (Well, okay, not Sarah Palin so much. I had never heard of her until just recently.) I trust Senator Obama. I believe him. More importantly, I believe he believes what he says he believes. He has the leadership qualities I am looking for in my next president.

I hope I have answered your question. Thanks for dropping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-11818">Steve</a> : Sen. Obama said he was not ready to be President? I must have missed that.</p>
<p>I have hired (and fired) a lot of people in my lifetime. One thing I have learned is that sometimes there are things more important than experience. That aside, I believe Barack Obama has had the life experience that will make him an outstanding president. I have spent a lot of time examining each of the candidates. (Well, okay, not Sarah Palin so much. I had never heard of her until just recently.) I trust Senator Obama. I believe him. More importantly, I believe he believes what he says he believes. He has the leadership qualities I am looking for in my next president.</p>
<p>I hope I have answered your question. Thanks for dropping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But you have Obama himself saying he is not ready to be President, and you support him? That&#039;s what I don&#039;t get. Why is experience of utmost importance for a VP but totally irrelevant for the top dog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you have Obama himself saying he is not ready to be President, and you support him? That&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t get. Why is experience of utmost importance for a VP but totally irrelevant for the top dog?</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-11814&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vulcanhammer&lt;/a&gt; : I don&#039;t think we&#039;re misunderestimating Mrs. Palin. She&#039;s a very attractive lady (she sure got old Rush Limbaugh turned on!), and I&#039;m sure she&#039;s very nice. She graduated from my alma mater, so I know she&#039;s smart. Thing is, you see, she is not ready for prime time. She simply is not ready to be one 72-year-old heartbeat removed from the presidency of the United States. Sorry, but that&#039;s the simple truth of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-11814">vulcanhammer</a> : I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re misunderestimating Mrs. Palin. She&#8217;s a very attractive lady (she sure got old Rush Limbaugh turned on!), and I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s very nice. She graduated from my alma mater, so I know she&#8217;s smart. Thing is, you see, she is not ready for prime time. She simply is not ready to be one 72-year-old heartbeat removed from the presidency of the United States. Sorry, but that&#8217;s the simple truth of it.</p>
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		<title>By: vulcanhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>vulcanhammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin probably won&#039;t be wearing too many Hillary-like pant suits. Palin will consolidate the conservative base-the same group that sat out the 2006 mid-terms. If Democrats underestimate her, they will live to regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin probably won&#8217;t be wearing too many Hillary-like pant suits. Palin will consolidate the conservative base-the same group that sat out the 2006 mid-terms. If Democrats underestimate her, they will live to regret it.</p>
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		<title>By: washwords</title>
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		<dc:creator>washwords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so.  I&#039;m nervous. especially reading hillaryforum.net and the pages and pagggeess of anti-obama vitriol cast in a &quot;yay palin&quot; coat. it&#039;s disturbing. My friends who are talking me down say this is probably all a handful of the GOPers trying to bait true feminists and Hillary supporters (I was undecided for a large part of the primary). I guess their bait is working. Please keep up the good work and keep convincing me this is gonna be okay. love your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so.  I&#8217;m nervous. especially reading hillaryforum.net and the pages and pagggeess of anti-obama vitriol cast in a &#8220;yay palin&#8221; coat. it&#8217;s disturbing. My friends who are talking me down say this is probably all a handful of the GOPers trying to bait true feminists and Hillary supporters (I was undecided for a large part of the primary). I guess their bait is working. Please keep up the good work and keep convincing me this is gonna be okay. love your blog.</p>
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