May 292008

It will all be over in less than a week…

Top Dems to push for swift end to primary race

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama

WASHINGTON (AP) – Top Democratic leaders intend to push for a quick end to the battle for the presidential nomination when primaries are over next week, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday, adding that he, Speaker Nancy Pelosi and party chairman Howard Dean will urge uncommitted delegates to choose sides.

“By this time next week, it will all be over give or take a day,” Reid said of the marathon race between the front-running Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Obama is within 44 delegates of clinching the nomination, according to The Associated Press tally, and leads Clinton by roughly 200 delegates.

Reid made his comments in an interview and a speech in San Francisco. He and numerous other Democrats have expressed concern that a protracted nominating campaign could harm the party’s chances of winning the White House in the fall. John McCain effectively wrapped up the Republican nomination in March.

Tantalizingly close to the nomination, Obama stands to gain a minimum of roughly 20 delegates in remaining primaries in Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota under party rules that distribute them proportional to the popular vote – even if he loses all three. He would need to enlist the support of uncommitted superdelegates to amass the rest.

Slightly fewer than 200 superdelegates remain uncommitted, including 64 members of Congress.

It should not have been allowed to drag on as long as it has. If it were anybody other than Hillary Clinton, it wouldn’t have.

My guess is that next Wednesday will be a busy day, with Barack Obama claiming victory and Hillary Clinton conceding defeat. The Bush/Clinton era will finally begin winding down.

  11 Responses to “By this time next week”

  1. I can’t wait for this to be over. Now if Obama will just declare a VP other than Clinton…

  2. I’m counting down the minutes. John McCain is still in the race, right?

  3. I’m looking forward to the end of all this!

  4. Anybody but Clinton the primaries wouldn’t have dragged on till…I dunno…everybody had a chance to vote? When was the last time you saw a Democratic primary that didn’t go to convention? I’ve seen a bunch of them myself….including one where Ted Kennedy fought tooth and nail against a sitting President (Carter).

    Seems some dems are angrier at Clinton than they ever were at Bush. If only the BO brigade had as much passion the last seven years.

  5. @jay : Hi.

    When was the last time you saw a Democratic primary that didn’t go to convention?

    2004, 2000, 1996, 1992, 1988, 1984, 1980… shall I go on?

    everybody had a chance to vote?

    Everybody always has a chance to vote. I voted in my state’s primary in March of 2004, even though the nominee had been decided long before then. I don’t ever recall a case where a state’s primary (or caucus) was canceled because the nominee had already been determined. Do you?

    Seems some dems are angrier at Clinton than they ever were at Bush.

    Don’t see it myself. I see a lot of Clinton supporters who are upset right now that their candidate isn’t winning and who are casting themselves and their candidate as victims. (A very Republican trait.) I don’t think Hillary Clinton sees herself as a victim. (I think Bill Clinton sees her as a victim, he said as much just the other day. I don’t think Hillary does, though.)

    If only the BO brigade had as much passion the last seven years.

    Sorry, I’ll not even dignify that with a response.

    Give yourself a few weeks to settle down and get your emotions under control, Jay. Then we’ll talk.

  6. I don’t know what party you are in, but in mine the nominee is not selected until all the delegates are counted and the winner gets the magic number. I’ve seen some pretty close ones.

    As I’ve said before, if BO gets the nomination I will support him….but he has to get it first. I have this thing against just calling the whole thing and giving it to anybody.

  7. @jay : Oh, Jay, stop being ridiculous. You know we both belong to the same party. In our party, there is a “magic number” of delegates. Once a candidate has secured that magic number of delegates, they have “clinched” the nomination. That, with very, very rare exceptions, happens long before the convention. This year, the magic number was set at 2,024.5 (subject to change due to the shenanigans of FL and MI). Contrary to your understanding, obviously, getting to the magic number does not always require counting all the delegates. It only means that you have to count until a candidate reaches the magic number. At that point, you can stop counting. All the delegates beyond that point are, as they say, superfluous. You should really have learned this in high school civics class. Miss that day, did you? 😉

    (Sorry that last part was superfluous.)

    Did the Republicans count all of their delegates this year? They did not. They counted until Johnny McSame secured the nomination and then they quit counting. Of course, they didn’t cancel their primaries beyond that point, but they didn’t really mean anything. They were superfluous.

  8. riggggght….and NEITHER have reached that magic number at of right now, but you want one side to quit before the finish. Isn’t that strange? If BO has the nomination cinched, why the whine for Clinton to drop? Seems to me that you guys would be more interested in talking about Obama’s plans rather than demand all votes stop and the primaries end. I am assuming he does have some type of plan, at least I hope he comes up with one soon. Something better than a bumper sticker slogan or a Reagan policy re-hash.

    And your memory of primary races is rather sparse, to put it charitably. When did we have a primary when the presumed winner LOST by huge double digit margins in two key electorial states at the end of the primary?


    when, when?

    Saying it over and over to yourself will not change reality. Obama is not wanted by over half the party members…even at this late stage in the game. This is something that we are going to have to deal with no matter who gets the nomination. Obama and his fans say that they don’t need all of us bitter racists. Probably not to get the nomination.

    But that is not really the goal, is it now?

    Or have you forgotten what we are nominating a person for?

  9. Jay, you’re right and everyone else is wrong. Feel better now?

    Get mad at me all you want if it helps. You say that Obama is not wanted at this late stage in the game by half of the party members. Actually, you said over half, but that’s using Clinton math. Remember, my friend, the same can be said of Hillary.

    Let it out, Jay. Scream, shout, kick, whatever it takes. It hurts to lose, I know. If you want to take it out on me, do it. It’s all my fault. Let me have it!

    P.S. When did West Virginia and Kentucky become “key electoral states?” I thought that honor was reserved for places like Utah and Rhode Island. 🙂

  10. Seems to me like your doing a bit of projecting there, Len. Calm down bud…no screaming coming from my side of the keyboard.

    “When did West Virginia and Kentucky become “key electoral states?”

    Oh…since Kerry and Gore lost them in their election bids.

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